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	<title>Comments on: HAF Members &#8211; Let&#8217;s Get the Jan 24 Party Started</title>
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		<title>By: Bare Feet Studios &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rent or Buy? How Does a Company Decide to Use New Media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bare Feet Studios &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rent or Buy? How Does a Company Decide to Use New Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 05:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to know it all - and that&#039;s the reason for us to keep talking. For those of you attending the HAF Conference tomorrow, we&#039;ll be discussing this in more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to know it all &#8211; and that&#8217;s the reason for us to keep talking. For those of you attending the HAF Conference tomorrow, we&#8217;ll be discussing this in more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bare Feet Studios &#187; Blog Archive &#187; HAF: A Message for You from Susan Bratton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bare Feet Studios &#187; Blog Archive &#187; HAF: A Message for You from Susan Bratton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] running in a few days at the Hawaii Advertising Federation meeting. I&#039;ve been addressing the topic here on the blog, and today&#039;s post is a personal video message from Susan Bratton, one of the founders [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] running in a few days at the Hawaii Advertising Federation meeting. I&#8217;ve been addressing the topic here on the blog, and today&#8217;s post is a personal video message from Susan Bratton, one of the founders [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roxanne Darling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roxanne Darling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bob - Yes, these comments are VERY helpful! This landscape is just another flavor of the web challenge businesses face: how do you know what you don&#039;t know?  How do you evaluate a vendor, a proposal, a fee estimate? There is no way other old-fashioned business practice: ask for references, check them in detail, look at people&#039;s work and see if you like it, even if you don&#039;t fully understand it. And, I might add, be willing to pay a little to try out a relationship with a vendor. The vendor will be happy and you will gain education that can be used regardless of who you ultimately hire.

@Mary-Lynn - My short answer is that technology is not actually all that advanced. :-(  And it appears that TidyCat is paying for the coupon placement, maybe even targeting Fresh Step buyers specifically to convert them over!  A third level of analysis would be for the store to go to Fresh Step, and say, &quot;Hey, even tho Tidy Cat is offering discounts, people still prefer your product. Why don&#039;t you work with us?&quot;

Alas, the majority of data goes unstudied or over-studied. Data is hot topic these days, as people want it used for good (target me  please based on who I am) while some marketing types are only after the sale. To be continued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bob &#8211; Yes, these comments are VERY helpful! This landscape is just another flavor of the web challenge businesses face: how do you know what you don&#8217;t know?  How do you evaluate a vendor, a proposal, a fee estimate? There is no way other old-fashioned business practice: ask for references, check them in detail, look at people&#8217;s work and see if you like it, even if you don&#8217;t fully understand it. And, I might add, be willing to pay a little to try out a relationship with a vendor. The vendor will be happy and you will gain education that can be used regardless of who you ultimately hire.</p>
<p>@Mary-Lynn &#8211; My short answer is that technology is not actually all that advanced. :-(  And it appears that TidyCat is paying for the coupon placement, maybe even targeting Fresh Step buyers specifically to convert them over!  A third level of analysis would be for the store to go to Fresh Step, and say, &#8220;Hey, even tho Tidy Cat is offering discounts, people still prefer your product. Why don&#8217;t you work with us?&#8221;</p>
<p>Alas, the majority of data goes unstudied or over-studied. Data is hot topic these days, as people want it used for good (target me  please based on who I am) while some marketing types are only after the sale. To be continued.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Beardsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Beardsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advertising industry is being turned upside down now.  I&#039;ve been in discussions with a respected local advertising company owner who actually had some of the same questions I have/had even though I represent a brand.  I but don&#039;t employ this company for our brand so our relationship is that of information gatherer-exchanger with him as we both investigate &quot;new media.&quot;

His concerns are similar to mine.  With all the new companies springing up around new media, it&#039;s hard to tell from where we sit exactly what it is they offer?  At a WOMMA conference brand meeting, I found this to be true with other major brands as well.  Approached by XYZ Kazoo Players company (they all have names that don&#039;t gtell much about what they do), I have to peel away what it is they offer.  Traditional advert agencies such as my buddy&#039;s have exactly the same issue. What is it you area offering?  When someone tells me &quot;everything&quot; in response -- I tune out.  After a year our so hanging out in teh nontraditional world, I feel I am finally getting up to speed figuring out what these new media companies actually do and how they can help me.

Don&#039;t know if this comment helps.

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advertising industry is being turned upside down now.  I&#8217;ve been in discussions with a respected local advertising company owner who actually had some of the same questions I have/had even though I represent a brand.  I but don&#8217;t employ this company for our brand so our relationship is that of information gatherer-exchanger with him as we both investigate &#8220;new media.&#8221;</p>
<p>His concerns are similar to mine.  With all the new companies springing up around new media, it&#8217;s hard to tell from where we sit exactly what it is they offer?  At a WOMMA conference brand meeting, I found this to be true with other major brands as well.  Approached by XYZ Kazoo Players company (they all have names that don&#8217;t gtell much about what they do), I have to peel away what it is they offer.  Traditional advert agencies such as my buddy&#8217;s have exactly the same issue. What is it you area offering?  When someone tells me &#8220;everything&#8221; in response&#8212;I tune out.  After a year our so hanging out in teh nontraditional world, I feel I am finally getting up to speed figuring out what these new media companies actually do and how they can help me.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know if this comment helps.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Mary-Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary-Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 23:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think advertisers really ought to think about service. How will you provide follow-up service to me if I buy into your product? How will you reach out to me once you know my preferences? An example: when I shop for groceries, I ALWAYS buy Fresh Step kitty litter, but I ALWAYS get a coupon for Tidy Cat. I even took the time to sign up for this grocery store&#039;s &quot;rewards program&quot;, so why can&#039;t they reward me by paying attention to my preferences? Technology today allows companies to really reach out and give personal service to their customers. I believe the company that really takes advantage of this will win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think advertisers really ought to think about service. How will you provide follow-up service to me if I buy into your product? How will you reach out to me once you know my preferences? An example: when I shop for groceries, I ALWAYS buy Fresh Step kitty litter, but I ALWAYS get a coupon for Tidy Cat. I even took the time to sign up for this grocery store&#8217;s &#8220;rewards program&#8221;, so why can&#8217;t they reward me by paying attention to my preferences? Technology today allows companies to really reach out and give personal service to their customers. I believe the company that really takes advantage of this will win.</p>
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